Over at Techdirt, the genial Mike Masnick has come up with a brilliant explanation of what is happening when Trump does an interview like the one with Time a couple of weeks ago; it's something remarkably similar to the way a chatbot, especially the less successful-looking early models like ChatGPT itself, handles a conversational series of prompts, with its "response generator":
A journalist asks a specific question about policy or events
Trump, clearly unfamiliar with the actual details, activates his response generator
Out comes a stream of confident-sounding words that maintain just enough semantic connection to the question to seem like an answer
The response optimizes for what Trump thinks his audience wants to hear, rather than for accuracy or truth....
Brilliant, if maybe not exactly right. Consider Masnick's first example:
You were harshly critical of what you called the weaponization of the Justice System under Biden. You recently signed memos—
Well, sure, but you wouldn’t be—if this were Biden, well, first of all, he wouldn’t do an interview because he was grossly incompetent.
We spoke to him last year, Mr. President.
Huh?
We spoke to him a year ago.
How did he do?
You can read the interview yourself.
Not too good. I did read the interview. He didn’t do well. He didn’t do well at all. He didn’t do well at anything. And he cut that interview off to being a matter of minutes, and you weren’t asking him questions like you’re asking me.
(In case you’re wondering, you can see the Biden interview here and he did not cut if off after a matter of minutes).
Because he's not doing what the automaton does, saying "what he thinks his audience wants to hear" (or, more accurately, trying to assemble the string that represents the most probable response to the prompt). Unlike the automaton, he is thinking, but in this passage from late in the interview what he's thinking about is how not to respond to the prompt, an uncomfortable series of questions on the abuse of foreign students' free speech rights over the Gaza issue, which he's not enjoying and doesn't know anything about (other than the less than accurate report that there was "tremendous antisemitism at every one of those rallies"), and he leaps at the mention of Biden's name as an opportunity to change the subject to something more comfortable, the subject of how superior he is to Biden, who would never have had the courage to submit to an interview with Time, except of course it immediately turns out he did.
So he instantly switches to pretending not only that he already knew that, though he obviously didn't, but even more ridiculously that he'd actually read the transcript, bringing in the words from the prompt.
That's the part that really looks like AI, where he lies, or hallucinates, "I did read the interview", though he's just told us he's hearing about the interview for the first time. AI is unable to maintain discourse coherence over a certain distance, as in this beautiful example I saw yesterday:
Gemini's conversational rules for answering a prompt like that are evidently to state the conclusion, then show its work, then repeat the conclusion: but it doesn't "know" the conclusion before it's done the rather complicated work required for this question, and "hallucinates" an answer instead. Then, after doing the work, it doesn't "know" that it has contradicted the prefabricated conclusion.
In a similar way, Trump has a set of prefabricated conclusions about Biden that he has been deploying for well over a year, that he's afraid of interviews and that everything he does is a failure, and when the prompts force him to switch them up, he simply does so, without showing any awareness that he's contradicting himself, and adding a kind of "hallucination" for verisimilitude, in the bit about the interview having been cut short (possibly inspired by an incident of September 2023, when a very jet-lagged Biden was giving a speech in Hanoi and his staff pulled him offstage before he was finished).
That's exactly how he maintains that tariffs will both protect the return of manufacturing industries to the US (because people will buy American dolls and pencils rather than pay the tax) and simultaneously raise hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue (because people will gladly pay the tax). The two concepts aren't connected for him, so they never collide, unless some mean interviewer forces the issue, like Time here telling him that the magazine did interview Biden, or Terry Moran on Kilmar Ábrego García:
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Don't do that -- M-S-1-3 -- It says M-S-one-three.
TERRY MORAN: I -- that was Photoshop. So let me just--
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: That was Photoshop? Terry, you can't do that -- he had --
-- he-- hey, they're givin' you the big break of a lifetime. You know, you're doin' the interview. I picked you because -- frankly I never heard of you, but that's okay --
TERRY MORAN: This -- I knew this would come --
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: But I picked you -- Terry -- but you're not being very nice. He had MS-13 tattooed --
TERRY MORAN: Alright. Alright. We'll agree to disagree. I want to move on --
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Terry.
Where Trump responds to being contradicted like a Mafia don.
And you don't necessarily need the AI concept to understand it. There's a lovely formulation by David Roth at Defector:
It is one of the defining Trump things that any belief that makes it into his mind will bump around in there forever; his understanding of the world is the sum of those things, thousands of permanent and perpetual irritants cut free from any context or facticity, smashing into each other and echoing forever inside of his luxuriously appointed skull. They drop bowling balls on the cars; there is no such thing as gold paint; they looked at his hand and the proof was right there. None of this, of course, is new. None of the beliefs are new, really, and nothing that Trump will do between this moment and his last one on earth will be new, or surprising in the least. It's just a matter of which echoes are ringing most loudly at that moment.
Just floating around his brain, from the bowling balls (probably not originating in a bizarre misinterpretation of the Nissan ad at top—the most thorough investigation I've seen is by Philip Bump, from 2018) to Kilmar Ábrego's knuckle tattoos, and all the rest.
I have a loathsome cousin who’s like Trump. Whenever you bring something up, he already knows about it; he read it; he worked on it; he knows more about it than the people who did it; he was in charge of them; he had to fire them. For years during Bush II he kept telling the family that he was in regular phone contact with Karl Rove and was “helping” him. Whatever concept you brought up to refute him, he already knew about it; he understood it better than you did. All done with that same calm, earnest, dull tone like he was mustering the patience to help us less knowledgeable fools, but just this once, out of pity. When I asked his kids (who are my age and smart and accomplished) if he actually believed all of it, they put on pained expressions and shrugged.
When Trump said “I did read it” to Moran, I had a sudden shock of recognition: that’s my cousin! I can’t figure it out…I know about “On Bullshit” and all of that, but I still don’t understand. It’s not lying and it’s not delusion — it’s something else, akin to children playing a narrative game and making up the scenarios as they go, announcing them — but even that’s not right. It’s a strange mental state that I know I’ve never been in.
This is all very plausible, but one more thing in the mix is whatever he is being fed by Stephen Miller and the Cabinet (I maybe wrong, but I'd guess Susie Wiles is too smart to get tangled up in policy). While the rest of the Cabinet seems to be just regurgitating his phrases back to him, Miller seems to have cracked the code on how to manage Trump. Mixed in with his classic grievances like Biden, there are what sound like half-remembered briefings that he tosses in just in case they are relevant to the question, or that he imagines make him sound well-informed.