Whatever happened to All American Heinz 57 Varieties? G'ma taught me it was to be proud of
I keep wondering who determines what? I come from old though not necessarily blue blood, with roots in Hudson's Bay Co and the Acadian Expulsion. There are towns with my name in every state and province north of New Jersey, oft two or three variations; plantations down south. As well as the "we were here first" strains and those brought here later. I know now g'ma was teaching me a better response than All American Boy: Red White and Black but ... who decides who?
Also the first utilization, the weaponization of the "War on Drugs" were in the Chinese exclusion ...
The total inversion of the Melting Pot meme into a fascist blood-and-soil one is a testimony to the fundamental power of racism in American history, and a great triumph of Republican propaganda. I'm of the opinion that this is not grampa's or dad's racism, a total condemnation with tiny wiggle room for "the good ones", but a more amorphous discomfort/fear of Others, not people nearby but further away, in Big Cities or foreign countries. There's plenty of grampa racism still around, but it gets huge amplification in social media. I don't see the racism of a white generation that embraces rap and hip-hop music and culture as the same racism of their grandparents who still love Motown but hate black culture, or their great-grandparents who danced to Benny Goodman and put sales covenants on their deeds.
Goodman was not only a great musician but also a (modest but genuine) civil rights hero. I love this: 'According to Jazz (Episode 5) by Ken Burns, Lionel Hampton states that when someone asked Goodman why he "played with that nigger" (referring to Teddy Wilson), Goodman replied, "If you say that again to me, I'll take a clarinet and bust you across your head with it".'
He also was said to be a brutal boss, tho I've not heard much more about it.
Saw him play in the early 70's at Concord Jazz in the Park (pre-pavilion). Brought my dad, who in his youth had been Benny's biggest fan (in particular of the small groups, which were vastly more entertaining and inventive than his big band). Was moving for both of us.
I'll add my voice to the chorus, this is a beautifully written breakdown of the reality behind the "invasion" by "illegals" that is the ahistorical foundation of the Republican party's immigration policy.
The most misinterpreted passage has been subject to jurisdiction thereof; it doesn't apply to only diplomats as many have erroneously insisted. When the 14th was passed Native Americans were not included because Congress at the time deemed them subject to tribal jurisdiction and it's abundantly clear the vast majority of Native Americans aren't diplomats so, it's inexplicable how the court could have reached that conclusion.
Trump's Executive Order is actually stronger legally and constitutionally than many would have people believe. Illegal Aliens and those in the US on temporary visas aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the US and here's an example. The US couldn't round up illegal aliens and temporary visa holders and conscript them for induction in the US armed forces if a war broke out. So illegal aliens and temporary visa holders can't meet the plain text of the 14th Amendment.
Native Americans were certainly "under the jurisdiction of the United States" when they were resident *in* the United States as opposed to their own federally assigned national territories, for better or for worse—the worse part was when the military chased them out of the US and into pockets of "Indian country" like the old South African Bantustans (that's where the apartheid rulers got the idea, from America), the better part was for the minority who chose to live among white people and were treated as a kind of immigrants, took jobs in cities, paid taxes, often served in the military, gave up tribal affiliations, and applied for naturalization from earlier than the 1831 treaty with the Mississippi Choctaw, which set the pattern of granting citizenship to entire tribes, and had kids who effectively had birthright citizenship before the 14th Amendment formalized the concept.
The ones who were deemed not under the jurisdiction of the US in 1866 were *only* the ones residing in "Indian country", where the white people's courts and cops didn't in fact exist. Formal birthright citizenship was granted to all Native people on as well as off the res in a gradual process between 1901 and 1924.
I don't know where you got the idea that the US couldn't conscript "illegal aliens and temporary visa holders" in wartime. As I explain in the post, these categories didn't exist at the time when the 14th Amendment was passed, since there were basically no laws restricting immigration until the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882.
The distinction between declarant and non-declarant immigrants was abandoned after Pearl Harbor. Every man aged between 21 and 45 was required to register, regardless of immigrant status, and many "illegals" especially Mexicans, were happy to be drafted or volunteered, glad to improve their chances of obtaining citizenship. This was even true of young Japanese men, who willingly joined the US military even as their families were being interned in concentration camps.
Decades after the draft was paused in response to the Vietnam war, men still must register for Selective Service at 18, as I did in Vietnam days, and that still extends to the undocumented https://immigrantsrising.org/resource/selective-service/ You're completely wrong.
Yas hits it outta the park.
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Whatever happened to All American Heinz 57 Varieties? G'ma taught me it was to be proud of
I keep wondering who determines what? I come from old though not necessarily blue blood, with roots in Hudson's Bay Co and the Acadian Expulsion. There are towns with my name in every state and province north of New Jersey, oft two or three variations; plantations down south. As well as the "we were here first" strains and those brought here later. I know now g'ma was teaching me a better response than All American Boy: Red White and Black but ... who decides who?
Also the first utilization, the weaponization of the "War on Drugs" were in the Chinese exclusion ...
The total inversion of the Melting Pot meme into a fascist blood-and-soil one is a testimony to the fundamental power of racism in American history, and a great triumph of Republican propaganda. I'm of the opinion that this is not grampa's or dad's racism, a total condemnation with tiny wiggle room for "the good ones", but a more amorphous discomfort/fear of Others, not people nearby but further away, in Big Cities or foreign countries. There's plenty of grampa racism still around, but it gets huge amplification in social media. I don't see the racism of a white generation that embraces rap and hip-hop music and culture as the same racism of their grandparents who still love Motown but hate black culture, or their great-grandparents who danced to Benny Goodman and put sales covenants on their deeds.
Hearted for reminder of Goodman's quartet members.
Goodman was not only a great musician but also a (modest but genuine) civil rights hero. I love this: 'According to Jazz (Episode 5) by Ken Burns, Lionel Hampton states that when someone asked Goodman why he "played with that nigger" (referring to Teddy Wilson), Goodman replied, "If you say that again to me, I'll take a clarinet and bust you across your head with it".'
He also was said to be a brutal boss, tho I've not heard much more about it.
Saw him play in the early 70's at Concord Jazz in the Park (pre-pavilion). Brought my dad, who in his youth had been Benny's biggest fan (in particular of the small groups, which were vastly more entertaining and inventive than his big band). Was moving for both of us.
I'll add my voice to the chorus, this is a beautifully written breakdown of the reality behind the "invasion" by "illegals" that is the ahistorical foundation of the Republican party's immigration policy.
Thanks for the deep dive, despite being gobsmacked for months!
The most misinterpreted passage has been subject to jurisdiction thereof; it doesn't apply to only diplomats as many have erroneously insisted. When the 14th was passed Native Americans were not included because Congress at the time deemed them subject to tribal jurisdiction and it's abundantly clear the vast majority of Native Americans aren't diplomats so, it's inexplicable how the court could have reached that conclusion.
Trump's Executive Order is actually stronger legally and constitutionally than many would have people believe. Illegal Aliens and those in the US on temporary visas aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the US and here's an example. The US couldn't round up illegal aliens and temporary visa holders and conscript them for induction in the US armed forces if a war broke out. So illegal aliens and temporary visa holders can't meet the plain text of the 14th Amendment.
Native Americans were certainly "under the jurisdiction of the United States" when they were resident *in* the United States as opposed to their own federally assigned national territories, for better or for worse—the worse part was when the military chased them out of the US and into pockets of "Indian country" like the old South African Bantustans (that's where the apartheid rulers got the idea, from America), the better part was for the minority who chose to live among white people and were treated as a kind of immigrants, took jobs in cities, paid taxes, often served in the military, gave up tribal affiliations, and applied for naturalization from earlier than the 1831 treaty with the Mississippi Choctaw, which set the pattern of granting citizenship to entire tribes, and had kids who effectively had birthright citizenship before the 14th Amendment formalized the concept.
The ones who were deemed not under the jurisdiction of the US in 1866 were *only* the ones residing in "Indian country", where the white people's courts and cops didn't in fact exist. Formal birthright citizenship was granted to all Native people on as well as off the res in a gradual process between 1901 and 1924.
I don't know where you got the idea that the US couldn't conscript "illegal aliens and temporary visa holders" in wartime. As I explain in the post, these categories didn't exist at the time when the 14th Amendment was passed, since there were basically no laws restricting immigration until the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882.
The basic distinction was between "declarant" immigrants who declared the intention to get naturalized and non-declarants who claimed that they should be exempt from conscription. Only the former were liable to the draft in the 1862 Civil War Conscription Act—not because the non-declarants weren't "under the jurisdiction" of the government but because they were regarded as potentially disloyal. https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=7767&context=mlr It was declarant immigrants from Ireland, not citizens, who fought the draft riots in New York and elsewhere in 1863. https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/social-sciences-and-humanities/military-conscription-immigrants#:~:text=Resident%20aliens%20were%20also%20subject,they%20were%20not%20yet%20citizens. I don't have any data on Chinese getting drafted in World War I, when most Chinese were "illegal", but I know the community provided plenty of volunteers, including at least one genuine hero from New York Chinatown. https://usdandelion.com/archives/5475
The distinction between declarant and non-declarant immigrants was abandoned after Pearl Harbor. Every man aged between 21 and 45 was required to register, regardless of immigrant status, and many "illegals" especially Mexicans, were happy to be drafted or volunteered, glad to improve their chances of obtaining citizenship. This was even true of young Japanese men, who willingly joined the US military even as their families were being interned in concentration camps.
Decades after the draft was paused in response to the Vietnam war, men still must register for Selective Service at 18, as I did in Vietnam days, and that still extends to the undocumented https://immigrantsrising.org/resource/selective-service/ You're completely wrong.